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>> this is d.w. news live from berlin. devastation and a desperate search for survivors of indonesia's earthquake and tsunami. as people beg to be airlifted out of the area, food and medicine is running out. the death toll will rise steeply over the coming days. also on the program -- the flashpoint city say they have stopped planned attacks against foreigners and left-winged activists. seven men have been arrested and accused of producing a terrorist group.
president trump: : this new dea will be more modern, up-to-d-da balanced trade agagement. >> it's mododern and up to date. high praise from the american president with the trade deal with canada and mexico saying it rights the wrongs of the nafta agreement it replaces. phil: i'm phil gale, welcome to the program. indonesia is burying the death from the tsunami. it's expected to rise as authorities reach areas cut off by the disaster. tens of thousands of people are homeless. many survivors say they haven't eaten for days. d.w. correspondent is on an island. and reports from one of the places hardest hit. >> all they want to to get out. some of them have been waiting
for days at the airirport to ge on one of the planes that are bringing in the aid. indonesia's armed forces are constantly airlifting in relief goods, things people need most -- water, food, medication, most of all. on their way back, they're taking those who are desperately waiting to leave old people, people that are injured, people who lost their homes, women, and small children. >> i'm pregnant and i'm about to give birth. but i heard that it's difficult to still get treatment at the hospital here. so i have to go to a bigger city. >> in the city rescue workers find new bodies every day. the earthquake has extinguished entire neighborhoods. this is the end of a landslide
that's two kilometers long that was caused by the earthquake. to understand the sheer force that was unleashed, you just to look at the building. that was previously not here but 100 meters down in that direction and was swept over by the moving soil. now there are still some 500 people believed to be buried here. and a lot of the people over here on this side have lost relatives right here and they're waiting for them to be found. he lost his mother, his brother, and his nephew when solid earth turned into a swirling vortex. >> when the ground started moving, i went outside. the whole street rose up. it was like a wave and we e wer swepept away. it was like a hole opening up and slamming shut again. >> it will take palu and its residents to recover what was destroyed in just a matter of
seconds, and some wounds may never heal. phil: now, indonesia is no stranger to earthquakes and the tsunamis they can cause which is why this country of 13,000 islands had an early warning system, but scientists and eyewitnesses are saying the system did not work. well, the professor it -- is one that supplied the early warning system. what went wrong? >> so we're trying to see -- the warning system depends on many things, the chain. the beginning of the seismic sensors, picks up a signal from the earthquake, the ground shaking from the earthquake and then determine the magnitude of the earthquake and then based on that information, within five minutes of the earthquake occurring, they have to decide to issue a warning. they did issue a warning for the earthquake based on the size. and then it is up to in the way
of local authorities in the local islands to evacuate people and get them off the beaches. it seems from reports that at least in some places this last element of giving the warning and locally failed. phil: as far as you can tell, the system that you provided worked? it was out of your hands? >> it was developed for indonesians and the technical part of the system worked but, of course, for all the system to work the warning needs to reach people on the ground and that seems to have not worked completely at least. phil: and so how does one learn lessons from this? because this is an area that's prone to this sort of seismic activity. one wonders, was this a government that was well enough prepared? >> well, a lot of good preparation has been made. acknowledge this earthquake was a particularly tough challenge. the time from the earthquake to the tsunami hitting palu, we
made calculations and this was quarter of an hour. one gets half ann hour, 45 minutes. this was a a pararticular r tou on the time scale. phil: it was tough because of what? >> because simply the proximity of the earthquake, tsunami -- since it's a small earthquake, we get -- it was just hit by ththis earthquake. which means a tsunami tends to be just local, not really reach far shores like we saw in 2004. but the downside is it's very close than the affected centers. phil: this is another criticism of the warnings that were given. not only were they insufficient but they downplayed it. they were warning of a tsunami surge of up to three meters. in some places it was actually up to six. >> yes, it was a very difficult thing to understand why the tsunami was that large, the type of earthquake that -- when
one would not expect vertical of the sea floor. so no punch up or down of the sea floor. and this is not expected to create a strong tsunami. so something else happened. one can speculate, it is possible sometimes the earthquake, the shaking from the earthquake will actually dislodge material under the sea and cause a marine landslide and then this landslide can be reason of the tsunami. before in other earthquakes. it's too early to say for this event. phil: we have heard reports of people describing some very strange phenomena. have a listen to this. >> after the earthquake, i saw the ground here moving in a circle, spinning. it wasn't water. it was the ground that was spinning. after it stopped i called out to my daughter, sarah. where are you?
phil: professor, what was that man experiencing? >> this is a dramatic account. a strong shaking of soil that's water lodged and what happens is the grounds that hold together firmly would shake loose which means the water can flow freely andnd essentially t preveviously solid ground turns into a liquid. this somebody dramatic. it would see the swirling sea of mud. phil: so from what you said, even for indonesia, even for this specific rim of fire, this was a peculiar event that scientists don't quite understand yet? >> the actual type of earthquake from the at the tonic situation there, but the size of the -- tetonic situation but there the size of the tsunami is different for that type of earthquake. phil: what should indonesia do
now? this is a strange country. it's only thousands of islands. one wonders how you protect all of these little territories against an event like this which will happen again. >> yeah, it's a difficult challenge. to think -- given limited funds, it is really important to concentrate on this last mile. so how to get the warning actually to the people and then also prepare on the ground with the ability to evacuate. people might not be able to get away from this in a short time. so in is, i think, where if -- where indonesia should put its efforts, there are ways to make the system better but that is sort of dotting the i's. phil: ok. i thank i understand that. thank you for explaining thatt toto us. professor, thank you. police here in germany detained seven men on forming a terror group near chemnitz.
prosecutors say they planned to carry out foreigners and left-winged activists. six of the suspects arrested today were rushed to their arrest hearings. a seventh was detained later on in the day. state prosecutors say communications between the suspects indicate they were preparing an attack for this witness, germany's reunification holiday. >> the communications indicate that the accused have joined together in order to carry out violent assaults and armed attacks. both against foreigners and against those who hold different political views from theirs. they also showed that the accused had made intensive efforts to obtain firearms, and the communications also show that they had a clear plan. >> prosecutors say five of the
suspects were involved in an incident on september 14 allegedly intended as practice for a larger attack on reunification day. the suspects used glass bottles, steel knuckle gloves and tasers to attack foreigners. >> thihis is very serioious. otherwise, the police and justice department would not have reacted. this is the effect of our zero tolerance policy on right-wing radicals and right-wing extremism and that's why it's right that the police and judicial authorities are acting so resolutely. >> the terror cell the suspects are accused of forming are called revolution chemnitz, named after the city where a stabbing of a man prompted a riot, something they have not seen in years. phil: let's get more from melinda. what more do we know about the suspects? >> these men are all german
citizens between 20 and around 30 years of age. and they're known to the police to be associated with neo-nazi huell began and right-wing extremist groups in the city of chemnitz. they seem themselves part of the larger right-wing group. they were working together with a man named christian k who is known as the ringleader of the group. he's been in detention since the middle of september, since one of those protests in chemnitz. the group were, as they called revolution chemnitz. they seem to be not only isolated attacks on foreigners or people of other political persuasion but in fact toppling the democratic system here in germany as a whole. so big aim. phil: so it does sound, then, the risk of far-right terror remains high here in germany?
>> that's what german officials are saying, both at federal and at state level. the interior minister said this -- these arrests were a real blow against right-wing extremism but he also did say, yes, the threat remains. the justice minister said she is sure this group does not stand alone. and in fact, if we look at t th region, this region and the larger eastern german region, it's not just since late august that we have seen right-wing violence. in fact, this is the region where the movement against the islamization of germany has held enormously large rallies ever since 2015. it's also the region where eight people were convicted and sent to prison in march of this year, a group that had been attacking refugee centers. so it is a region seen as a hotbed of right-wing extremism. and local authorities said
today they are forming a new task group to look at the right-wing violence that is on the rise there and that they do see this as an ongoing, a large and existental threat, in the words of one politician. phil: melinda crane, thank you. now to some of the stories making news around the world. the -- this year's nobel prize has been awarded to two people from the united states and japan it focuses on the way the body's natural defenses fights cancerer. their discoveries have revolutionized cancer treatment. former ivory coast president has asked the international criminal court in the hague to acquit him of crimes against humanity. he has been in detention for seven years and on trial at the i.i.c.c. since 2 2016. he faces four counts of crimes against humanity for his alleged involvement in deadly violence after the country's
disputed 2010 presidential election. thousands of independents protesters in the spanish region of catalonia have marked the first anniversary of a failed independence referendum. last year's vote was ruled illegal by the country's constitutional court and plunged the country into a political crisis. despite this many in the region are continuing their push to succeed. >> thousands of pro-independence demonstrators marched through the streets of barcelona well into sunset. since the morning, they had been ralallying in different parts of town. they blocked roads and even the entrance to the city's stock exchange building. we are maintaining the flame of october 1 because we are aware what we voted for and we don't plan on taking a step back. it all commemorates the events
a year ago when spanish police heavy-handedly blocked attempts on voting on a referendum for catalonia independence. it created the biggest political crisis in decades. a year on and the independence movement is fractured. its leaders in jail or in exile. from belgium, the most prominent leader sent out this message. >> victory of october 1 must stay alive in our heads and our hearts. above a all, let us not stray from the only path we m must follow in order to livee in a full democracy. that is, a republic and international recognition. >> dialogue between th regional and national administrations has so far delivered some economic deals for catalonia. for demonstrators in barcelona streets, that's far from
enough. phil: pop star turned politician bobby wine has a message of hope, freedom, and inclusiveness. he's built a large following. especially among the country's younger generation. but he's seen as menace by the longtime president. he was arrested on treason charges and says he was tortured while in detention. an exclusive interview with d.w., he describes his vision for a free uganda. ♪ >> he has legions of fans. both as a pop star and since winning a parliamentary seat last year as an independent candidate. known to fans as bobby wine is a powerful opposition voice in uganda, especially among young people frustrated by the president. >> want to live in a country where all of us are equal and
all of us have same opportunities no matter your tribe, no matter who knows you, no matter which family you come from. that's a country we want. where our sisters can feel safe, you know. where they don't have to think about death when they are giving back. it's a wide vision for uganda but most importantly, want to have the freedom to even imagine all those things because now it seems like we are not allowed to. >> wine's outspoken criticism of the government has landed him in trouble. he's been arrested and says he was badly beaten in custody. he's currently awaiting trial on what he calls trumped up charges of treason. >> of course it scares me. of course everybody wants to, you know, live peacefully. again, when i think about two
years of operations we have undergone, there is nothing to fear anymore. we decide to regain our freedom or live this way forever. >> also nicknamed the ghetto president, wine has a big following among the urban poor and unemployed. although he's calling for the president to retire, he insists he does not have presidential ambitions. >> i think the question of presidency is revisionary. this should not be reduced to a single person. i said it before and i'll say it again, this is not about me. it's about all of us and we need all of us, each one needs to play their part. i emphasize this is not just my message. it is our message. the majority of us who feel oppressed. yes, i feel like it is -- there are many great people that have
come before me that sent the same message. i'm only adding my voice. i'm sure many will come after me. each one of us keeps adding on until the liberation day will come. >> the singer became a musical celebrity through songs t tt tackled issues such as poverty and corruption. today he's still u using his music to call on ugandans to call on political freedom. phil: the nafta saga is finally come to an end. >> for those that can't hear it anymore, the word nafta will probably not be said anymore. the united states and canada have agreed to a deal to replace the nafta free trade agreement. that's according to a u.s. official who also said it will be renamed. the united states-mexico-canada agreement. until now, canada had risked staying out of the deal reached in august between the u.s. and mexico to update nafta, but that last-minute talks between ottawa and washington guaranteed that all three members will be in the new
version of the trade pact. president trump: so we have negotiated this new agreement based on the principle of fairness and reciprocity. to me it's the most important word in trade because we've been treated so unfairly by soo many nations. all over the world. that we're changing that. >> u.s. president t nald trumpm soundeded pleleased with the tr which rescues america's n natio $1.3 t trillion open trade zone. since trump's election, the quarter century oldd pact which includes canada, the u.s., and mexico, had been brought to the brink of collapse. negotiators hadad worked to wor on a deal. the deal that involved compromises in pharmaceuticals and agriculture. canada agreed to provide u.s. dairy farmers with fiscal year access to its own markets and -- freer access to o s own markets anand said it will compensate dairy farmers hurt by the deal. canada fought to maintain a
trade dispute settlement mechanism. >> it's an agreement when answeren acted will be good for canadian workers, good for canadian business, and good for canadian families. it's an agreement that removes uncertainty for our manufacturers and investors and improves labor rights for all north americans. >> a joint statement said the new agreementt would resultt in freerr markets, fairer trade, robust economic growth in the region. u.s. president donald trump had blamed nafta for the exodus of manufacturing jobs to mexico where wages are lower and he threatened to walalk away from nafta unless major changes were made. the u.s. congress has 60 days to approve the deal. phil: all right. let's take a deeper look at this agreement with our financial correspondent at the new york stock exchange who has been following the developments very closely. good to see you. let's cut to the chase. is this truly a bottom line win for the u.s. economy or more of
a political win for trump? >> in a press conference, u.s. president donald trump directly named that ice cream will be cheaper in canada. it will be easier to export. other than for the dairy industry, we really have to wait and see if we will see big changes. what we hear quite a bit, that it's very good news for the car industry. but if you look at the new quotas, so more components should be made within north america, most big car companies already fulfill those quotas so even if it wasn't set in stone before, anyhow. what we do see is uncertainties are falling apart. the car companies, for example, can now really -- it's easier for them to do the planning for the future. that's also why we saw some
gains in the stocks off the big car manufacturers. overall, other than the dairy industry, we really have to wait and see if this is, again, a game changer. >> the next big challenge, of course, is china. the u.s. defense secretary now canceling a trip there. >> yeah. well, james mattis is canceling his trip. before that, china actually said that they will not have any high-ranking military official ready to meet mattis. so kind of china was part of the reason why this trip got cancelled. by the way, over the weekend, china had actually lowered tariffs on about 1,600 products that could have been a certain sign of appeasement. at this point, it doesn't look very likely that a deal between china and the u.s. is even close. and while we speak amid this week, the u.s. will start trade
negotiations with japan. so it's not unlikely that washington tries to get as many trade deals as possible to increase the pressure on china. >> thank you very much. as part of the dieselgate scandal, the german government is offering incentives to those who buy less polluting cars. what about the rest? no one is against making things more environmentally friendly but someone has to pay. german drivers are fuming. especially the ones who driver diesels. they have no idea if their cars will soon be allowed on city streets. of the 56 million cars in the country, almost 1/3 use diesel fuel. some car makers have already recalled vehicles and reduced their emissions by retrofitting diesel engines. usually with a softwarare updat so far the industry isn't saying how many cars still need retrofitting. diesel drivers are also in the dark. about what comes next.
>> my family is already thinking about buying a new car. >> i'm really worried. in fact, i'm outraged. the new cars that they're making, at least they ought to be clean. >> it'ss b been three years sin the diesell emissions treating scandal broke. despite this, new diesel cars are still being sold whose emissions far exceed european limits on nitrogen oxides, the chemicals that cause smog. test show volkswagen diesel models put out twice as much nitrogen oxide as permitted. b.m.w. three times the limit. and opal exceeds it by a factor of 10. diesel has been popular in germany in recent years because the fuel is cheaper than gasoline. the cars are also significantly more fuel-efficient. even last year, more than 1.3 million new diesel cars were sold. that compares to nearly two
million gasoline-powereded cars that werere registerered. the share of diesel vehicles in new registrations have fallen since diesel-gate and the value of used diesels are plummeted, if they find a buyer at all. >> that's all for business and d.w. news. phil gale will be back -- gayle will be back at the top of the hour with more news. . . >maa